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2014 BMW S 1000 R Preview

Torque! :sinister:

According to BMW, the S1000R engine puts out 160 hp at 11,000 rpm, and 83 pound-feet of torque at 9,250. More intriguing, BMW says the “ride-by-wire” E-gas engine puts out 7 more pound-feet of torque than the S100RR’s engine below 7,500 rpm. Much of the improvement in low-end response, says BMW, can be attributed to redesigned cylinder head ports, modified cam profiles and revised engine management.
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Dustin said:
Torque! :sinister:
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" Up to 7,500 rpm, the S 1000 R’s engine offers up to 10 Newton meters (approx. 7 lb-ft) more torque than the S 1000 RR, which is tailored more to maximized power and track performance."

I just hope they didn't kill too much high rpm power just to add " UP TO 7 FT LBS OF TORQUE "

Torques awesome but 7 ft lbs below 7500 rpm aint much of an improvement if the trade off is losing 30hp.

Now don't get me wrong I understand the value of torque but part of the appeal ( for me ) of an inline four is that rush off power approaching redline.

When they say " up too 7 ft lbs " that's the peak gain below 7500 rpm.
Whats the average gain 3-4 ft lbs ??? If that's the case and your losing 30 hp up top.....................BOO !

The 2000rpm lower redline, different cams, changes to the cylinder head, valves .. all that for a 7ft lb torque gain? :dontknow::dontknow::dontknow::dontknow:
 
With 160 hp at the top end and oodles of torque, I seriously doubt it's going to feel slow.
Without a faring you will struggle to hold on in the higher rpm.

Sent from my GT-I9300
 
Just for reference, here's Sport Rider's dyno of the 2012 Tuono V4R

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It will be interesting to see a direct comparison to the S1000R from the same guys. BMW is claiming about the same torque figures as the Tuono at the crank and 7 horsepower less
 
I want to see that bmw go up against the new tuono. I love my my gen1 but if I were to upgrade in the next year I think it would be between those 2.
 
ballmead said:
With 160 hp at the top end and oodles of torque, I seriously doubt it's going to feel slow.
Without a faring you will struggle to hold on in the higher rpm.

Sent from my GT-I9300
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That 160hp is BWM'S rating at the crank......... Just for comparisons sake Yamaha rates the FZ1 at 150hp at the crank and they run 126-130hp on the dyno ( stock )

I'd imagine at the rear wheel on the dyno where going to see about 140hp or even less.
 
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Ssky0078 said:
So you think that an Ivanized ECU will get an additional 20-ish horsepower and 5-7 lb*ft torque? Anybody got a dynochart to prove this?
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Over a stock FZ1 ? If so yes check the dyno charts at " Ivans performance "

The ECU alone won't do it, need exhaust, airfliter, PCV and modded airbox.
 
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super googan said:
That 160hp is BWM'S rating at the crank......... Just for comparisons sake Yamaha rates the FZ1 at 150hp at the crank and they run 126-130hp on the dyno ( stock )

I'd imagine at the rear wheel on the dyno where going to see about 140hp or even less.
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And no one complains about the top end of an FZ1, it's the bottom end and midrange that need improving.
I reckon BMW will have built a bullet of a bike who's engine will be just about perfect for a naked bike.
Add an exhaust and a flash and we are looking at over 170 hp at the crank.
IMHO This will be a seriously quick bike that won't be lacking anywhere.

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Ssky0078 said:
Wow, so basically you can get a used Gen II and throw $2000 at it to get numbers at around the same as the Tuono or S1000R for the engine. Then you throw another $2000 at it for suspension upgrades. And you still save $5000 over either of those fancy euro bikes.
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Oh sheesh, as if. It sounds like I'm reading a Honda Civic thread on Honda-Tech

"I can just put 10g into my Civic and trash any 911 GT3 that costs $125,000"
 
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