2014 BMW S 1000 R Preview

Torque! :sinister:

According to BMW, the S1000R engine puts out 160 hp at 11,000 rpm, and 83 pound-feet of torque at 9,250. More intriguing, BMW says the “ride-by-wire” E-gas engine puts out 7 more pound-feet of torque than the S100RR’s engine below 7,500 rpm. Much of the improvement in low-end response, says BMW, can be attributed to redesigned cylinder head ports, modified cam profiles and revised engine management.
 
I'm not crazy about the big R on the tank.

I'm looking forward to read the coming shootout articles.

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Torque! :sinister:

" Up to 7,500 rpm, the S 1000 R’s engine offers up to 10 Newton meters (approx. 7 lb-ft) more torque than the S 1000 RR, which is tailored more to maximized power and track performance."

I just hope they didn't kill too much high rpm power just to add " UP TO 7 FT LBS OF TORQUE "

Torques awesome but 7 ft lbs below 7500 rpm aint much of an improvement if the trade off is losing 30hp.

Now don't get me wrong I understand the value of torque but part of the appeal ( for me ) of an inline four is that rush off power approaching redline.

When they say " up too 7 ft lbs " that's the peak gain below 7500 rpm.
Whats the average gain 3-4 ft lbs ??? If that's the case and your losing 30 hp up top.....................BOO !

The 2000rpm lower redline, different cams, changes to the cylinder head, valves .. all that for a 7ft lb torque gain? :dontknow::dontknow::dontknow::dontknow:
 
With 160 hp at the top end and oodles of torque, I seriously doubt it's going to feel slow.
Without a faring you will struggle to hold on in the higher rpm.

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Just for reference, here's Sport Rider's dyno of the 2012 Tuono V4R

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It will be interesting to see a direct comparison to the S1000R from the same guys. BMW is claiming about the same torque figures as the Tuono at the crank and 7 horsepower less
 
I want to see that bmw go up against the new tuono. I love my my gen1 but if I were to upgrade in the next year I think it would be between those 2.
 
With 160 hp at the top end and oodles of torque, I seriously doubt it's going to feel slow.
Without a faring you will struggle to hold on in the higher rpm.

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That 160hp is BWM'S rating at the crank......... Just for comparisons sake Yamaha rates the FZ1 at 150hp at the crank and they run 126-130hp on the dyno ( stock )

I'd imagine at the rear wheel on the dyno where going to see about 140hp or even less.
 
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So you think that an Ivanized ECU will get an additional 20-ish horsepower and 5-7 lb*ft torque? Anybody got a dynochart to prove this?



Over a stock FZ1 ? If so yes check the dyno charts at " Ivans performance "

The ECU alone won't do it, need exhaust, airfliter, PCV and modded airbox.
 
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That 160hp is BWM'S rating at the crank......... Just for comparisons sake Yamaha rates the FZ1 at 150hp at the crank and they run 126-130hp on the dyno ( stock )

I'd imagine at the rear wheel on the dyno where going to see about 140hp or even less.

And no one complains about the top end of an FZ1, it's the bottom end and midrange that need improving.
I reckon BMW will have built a bullet of a bike who's engine will be just about perfect for a naked bike.
Add an exhaust and a flash and we are looking at over 170 hp at the crank.
IMHO This will be a seriously quick bike that won't be lacking anywhere.

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Wow, so basically you can get a used Gen II and throw $2000 at it to get numbers at around the same as the Tuono or S1000R for the engine. Then you throw another $2000 at it for suspension upgrades. And you still save $5000 over either of those fancy euro bikes.

Oh sheesh, as if. It sounds like I'm reading a Honda Civic thread on Honda-Tech

"I can just put 10g into my Civic and trash any 911 GT3 that costs $125,000"
 
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