Ssky0078
Wizard
The T is rock solid and the most violent bike I've ever ridden.
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That just makes me want it even more. there might be something wrong with me. I need to chill out again. :disturbed
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The T is rock solid and the most violent bike I've ever ridden.
Sent from my LG-P925 using Tapatalk 2
I still dont understand the FZ8in the line up. I think they should have just made the FZ1N available here. For me the 1 makes so much more sence than the 8 but I might have my blinders on.
What confuse's me about why they did the 8 at least here is it is the same bike as the 1 to the 95% mark then less suspension and less motor for what a grand less than a new 1 or more than a left over 1. I just dont see it.
I know that I push things fast, but that is just how I've always done it. I jump into something 100% till I feel I've got about 90% of it down and then I get bored and move on. I push the limits of whatever I am doing to see how much I can get out of it, while I'm still interrested.
I in no way meant that I would master the Fz1 in just 5-10 months. My long term plan is to hang on to my Fz1 for sentimental reasons as well as I think the bike can serve just about all the purposes I want in a motorcycle with the exception of not being good on dirt (Super tenere or Hypermotard or DRZ400sm going from more mature to least mature) and long distance touring (seat kills me after about 45 min and I would have to get a fairing back on it, G1200GS or Multistrada/Hyperstrada or RT1200R with full kit)
The Tuono V4R has all sorts of gadgets/tech options on it, that make me interrested and I would wait 2-3 years to get one used and watch for any major issues with all the new gadgets/tech.
And I don't think going to the track means being reckless, in fact I see it as the opposite. It's a more controlled environment to put the skills to a test and learn about myself and the motorcycle. Pushing it on back roads or busy highways would be irresponsible and reckless. I mean I just took the ARC to learn new techniques and have even gone out and applied them already. I just take a more academic approach and then go out to test in the real world, much like a physics class, I come here for the information and debate, then I got out in the lab.
Anyway the Tuono V4R is an amazing looking bike and sounds like it's very spec friendly for an aggressive riding style as well as having the ability to turn it down for one's own self preservation.
I guess the sad thing about how this thread has gone is that I'm looking at what Yamaha is about to do and not getting really excited. I started looking at the Fazer bikes back in 2006 and unfortunately was prevented from getting in the sport until now. I've read enough threads on enough forums to see that the Yamaha has it's limitations and other bike manufacturers are out there doing things that are looking pretty impressive. The nicest thing about the Yamaha is it's sticker price. You get a quality product for a relatively easier dent in your wallet.
Cheers
From reading your posts, I bet you wouldn't be on a FZ1 in a year from now . There are no shortcuts to learning skillful riding unless you are Valentino Rossi ...
I don't disagree with you, but I think once Yamaha got rid of the FZ6 they felt they needed a naked middle-weight bike and the FZ8 fit the bill.
Agree. The gap between the 6R and FZ1 is way too much. The FZ8 is not a bad ride. I think it fit perfectly in the line up. I agree that there's not a big difference between the 8 and 1. But once the FZ1 finally get an update the whole Yamaha line up will make better sense.
There are a few R1s that have been converted to nakeds. If you google them they come up.
Agree. The gap between the 6R and FZ1 is way too much. The FZ8 is not a bad ride. I think it fit perfectly in the line up. I agree that there's not a big difference between the 8 and 1. But once the FZ1 finally get an update the whole Yamaha line up will make better sense.
Sounds like Yamaha is trying to use the triple to rev up it's marketing like they did back in the day with the 5-valve engine. There was no real advantage to it, but if four valves were good then five had to be better. Eventually they abandoned that. And they have produced a triple before, but now Triumph and MV Agusta have already beaten Yamaha to the punch so I doubt it will have the impact that they hope for. The last great idea Yamaha had was the EXUP valve
I think the only thing that could really excite me in the engine department is to see street-able 2-strokes again! The tree huggers have killed that dream. I'm afraid even if they somehow make a comeback, they just won't be the same without the blue smoke mosquito fogging effect. :rant: :stirpot: :cowboy:
If 2 strokes ever made a comeback they would be so neutered they would be very uninteresting. We are going in the opposite direction, people trying to push electric vehicles (cars and bikes) on us.
Unfortunately, you are totally correct. Nothing like a 15 minute fill up... AT BEST! Who would tolerate a 5 min fill up? I don't think your employer will (or should) put charging stations in every parking spot (tree huggers seem to think this will happen and some how be free to them) : owned:
I walked straight past the HD and electric booths at the motorcycle show. No interest in either for me.
I have high hopes for the triple (at least for street bikes and more usable lower end), but low expectations.