Lonerider59
Wizard
I just got an email from the dealer I got my FZ from. They are advertising 2009 FZ1's $6992. I'm sure that's plus tax but still a pretty good deal.
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Yea, that is a good deal. I remember seeing '08's all over eBay last Fall/Winter advertised for the same price. However considering that there was a price increase in '09 that is a very attractive deal.
Ouch!, ouch! and ouch!
New FZ1N In Holland is 13.499 EUR wich is 20.113 US Dollars
So getting one for 6995 US Dollar which is 4.692 EUR is a huge differance.
Wish we could get them that cheap.
You have to wonder what goes into pricing a model for sale ! The manufacture's unit price is consistant and set. So why the HUGE differences from country to country ?? Shipping cannot explain over 100% or more in some cases. From the pricing it appears they are dumping bikes for a loss in the US. Or they are scalping in Europe and England, and to some degree in Canada ? At least for Canadians, we do have the option of cross border bargains, mind you with a lot of hassles when it comes to Vehicles. :cuss:
I just got an email from the dealer I got my FZ from. They are advertising 2009 FZ1's $6992. I'm sure that's plus tax but still a pretty good deal.
Makes you wonder how they can sell bikes at such a loss and still stay in business. It seems like all the dealers up north do the same thing every year at the end of riding season,so we aren't talking about a couple of isolated incidents.
From my understanding, motorcycles have about a 14% markup at MSRP. So that means dealers pay about $8789 for an FZ1. So that is about a $1596 loss on those bikes.
Dealers sometimes-like with the 2008 model year-purchase bikes at year end at an auction. If you catch a dealer with an auction bike, he's able to offer a much lower price and still make a profit. I purchased my 08 in July 09 for 7399, however several other dealers in my area were selling the same bike for close to retail of 9299. Difference? One purchased at Yamaha auction and the other purchased before the 08 season at full wholesale.
First of all, I'm new here. So, hello everyone!
Second, WOOWW!!!
That is some price difference! I plan on buying one at some point (right now I'm still loving my SV, but it's clear that I'm gonna come back to this forum as an owner in about 1.5 years). Here's something that figures:
Should I buy a brand new fz1 from around here, it would cost me around 12k euros ~ 18k $...
If I buy a plane ticket to the states, arange for transportation via a sea shipment vessel (cheapest form of global transportation known to man), pay the + VAT (you've got 12% I believe.. over here it's 20%), pay all the registration + import taxes,
I would still come out on top with about 5k $..
Now here's the tricky bit : a used fz1 goes for about 5k$ in the US, right? well, pump that up to ~10k $ in europe, soo, it still makes sense even for a used fz1. That's barking mad!!
If I am not mistaken, you would also have to convert the bike so it is configured for your country. That means a new speedometer and whatever makes it run as well as the lights might need to be changed, and you might have to do some emissions mods.
I know people that were stationed overseas, and they had to reconfigure bikes if they brought them back to the US. By the time you threw in the money for reconfiguration and shipping, and import duties, it wasn't really worth it coming this way. Perhaps it would still work out fine for you.
And we don't have a VAT. We pay sales tax and that amount depends on the state you are located in. I pay 3% in North Carolina, but I also have to pay a yearly \"property tax\" on my vehicles. Still doesn't work out to much though, provided you don't have all new vehicles.
You have to wonder what goes into pricing a model for sale ! The manufacture's unit price is consistant and set. So why the HUGE differences from country to country ?? Shipping cannot explain over 100% or more in some cases. From the pricing it appears they are dumping bikes for a loss in the US. Or they are scalping in Europe and England, and to some degree in Canada ? At least for Canadians, we do have the option of cross border bargains, mind you with a lot of hassles when it comes to Vehicles. :cuss:
Ouch!, ouch! and ouch!
New FZ1N In Holland is 13.499 EUR wich is 20.113 US Dollars
So getting one for 6995 US Dollar which is 4.692 EUR is a huge differance.
Wish we could get them that cheap.