troyw
Well-Known Member
As it has been pointed out, Ivan was not the originator of this mod. And, the dyno charts he posted, and the fact that I did the mod, had nothing to do with buying anything from him. Truth is, everyone on the FZ1OA who has done the mod, then got a dyno tune has posted significant gains in every area of the power range. Throttle response is also much better, especially in conjunction with Ivan's, Copperdog's or no flies. Selling me one of his downloads? I don't even know what you're talking about on that one, man.
We are also not putting on individual pods on this bike. But, putting them on a Gen 1 has also shown marked improvements from more places than Ivan's, provided it's fueled right. I'd be willing to bet that a great tuner could put pods on this fuel injected model and work some goodness, but I could be wrong on that. I don't know, so unlike what you did here with me, I won't make any assumptions until I know for sure. Have you seen flow charts or done airflow or air/fuel measurements to verify any of what you said here about how much the stock air box flows? These car and motorcycle companies restrict everything that comes to our showrooms now.
One more thing...if you look closely at the dyno charts on Grave's site, there are losses associated with those stacks. You gain in some areas, but may lose in others. But, then you might argue that Graves is trying to sell you something too, no? You bought them, and believed their claims. What makes them any different than Ivan's? Why are
they not telling you anything to sell their product?
Not trying to be a jerk or anything, but you came out of the gate making assumptions about what I was doing, and how. Folks who do that are usually wrong. I know when I do it, I'm usually wrong.
On another, and final factual point, my FZ1 after all the mods is a totally different bike. Better gas mileage, obvious gains in power, better throttle response and no hesitation after decel when reapplying the gas. There are things I can do with ease that I tried to do with the bike stock that I just couldn't do.
Well...I guess Ive said enough. Sorry...pet peeve is people assuming what they don't know. I hate when I do it too.
We are also not putting on individual pods on this bike. But, putting them on a Gen 1 has also shown marked improvements from more places than Ivan's, provided it's fueled right. I'd be willing to bet that a great tuner could put pods on this fuel injected model and work some goodness, but I could be wrong on that. I don't know, so unlike what you did here with me, I won't make any assumptions until I know for sure. Have you seen flow charts or done airflow or air/fuel measurements to verify any of what you said here about how much the stock air box flows? These car and motorcycle companies restrict everything that comes to our showrooms now.
One more thing...if you look closely at the dyno charts on Grave's site, there are losses associated with those stacks. You gain in some areas, but may lose in others. But, then you might argue that Graves is trying to sell you something too, no? You bought them, and believed their claims. What makes them any different than Ivan's? Why are
they not telling you anything to sell their product?
Not trying to be a jerk or anything, but you came out of the gate making assumptions about what I was doing, and how. Folks who do that are usually wrong. I know when I do it, I'm usually wrong.
On another, and final factual point, my FZ1 after all the mods is a totally different bike. Better gas mileage, obvious gains in power, better throttle response and no hesitation after decel when reapplying the gas. There are things I can do with ease that I tried to do with the bike stock that I just couldn't do.
Well...I guess Ive said enough. Sorry...pet peeve is people assuming what they don't know. I hate when I do it too.
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