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Question about frame sliders torque

ballmead

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I bought these frame sliders from THIS EBay seller.
He recommends that I torque them up no more than 24 foot pounds (with locktite) as they will damage the sliders if you use more torque.
The standard torque from Yamaha for the engine bolts is a fair bit more than what this fella recommends so I'm a bit unsure if I should fit them. I'm a little worried that the torque is not enough.
Any advise?
 
I did not torque mine just got them for what I thought was as tight as my sliders could handle. I checked them after a few rides and after 6+ months they have not moved a bit. But some of the other guys on here may have a better way.
 
I use a torque wrench on just about every bolt on my bikes. Be cautious using Locktite with aluminum threads (don't use the high strength, Red stuff) I would say that if the bolt is of good quality and it has a washer behind the head, I would go by what Yamaha says. The seller is probably worried about the bolt head deforming the derlin that the slider is made of.

I checked my FZ manual and it lists 33 ft/lbs. for that bolt.
 
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Oldschool said:
I use a torque wrench on just about every bolt on my bikes. Be cautious using Locktite with aluminum threads (don't use the high strength, Red stuff) I would say that if the bolt is of good quality and it has a washer behind the head, I would go by what Yamaha says. The seller is probably worried about the bolt head deforming the derlin that the slider is made of.
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I'm with oldschool I think you definitely should use a torque wrench, I've broken bolts before and let me tell you, THAT is one experience you do not want. I'm thinking that you probably should use the engine mount bolts too if you can, I will be doing this myself as my sliders just got in :)
 
My shop says to go by the frame slider manufacturer recommendations not the service manual. Definitely properly torque. last thing you need is for those things to snap from stress when you are pushing it hard.
 
I just put my T-Rex sliders on today after having them for a month. I bought a torque wrench and the instructions with my sliders said to use thread lock (I used the blue, not the red!) and not to exceed 35ft/lb.

Since I had never used this torque wrench (craftsman click) I was unsure what was 30 ft/lbs and what was 35 ft/lbs, so I choose the lower of the 2 settings. I'll check them after several miles of riding, but with this weather, it may be a while (although I did get about 15 miles of riding in tonight :))

I'm not totally happy that the slider bolts have Allen (hex key) heads (8mm), but I guess it's ok. I had to buy a set of metric Allen sockets too. The stock bolts were way shorter, but had 12mm hex heads.
 
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Well I see why the vendor recommends no more than 24 ft/lbs of torque. They don't have the aluminum inserts that most other sliders have. I am also not really buying his explanation of why his don't have the inserts. I have "tested" a set with the aluminum inserts in them and they held up fine. I would also think that the aluminum inserts help in getting an accurate and consistent torque reading. All that said just recheck the torque on them after a few days to make sure they haven't loosened up.
 
BDazzler said:
I just put my T-Rex sliders on today after having them for a month. I bought a torque wrench and the instructions with my sliders said to use thread lock (I used the blue, not the red!) and not to exceed 35ft/lb.

Since I had never used this torque wrench (craftsman click) I was unsure what was 30 ft/lbs and what was 35 ft/lbs, so I choose the lower of the 2 settings. I'll check them after several miles of riding, but with this weather, it may be a while (although I did get about 15 miles of riding in tonight :))

I'm not totally happy that the slider bolts have Allen (hex key) heads (8mm), but I guess it's ok. I had to buy a set of metric Allen sockets too. The stock bolts were way shorter, but had 12mm hex heads.
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ARG! those look cool! I wish I'd have seen those before I bought my graves...:frown:
 
romr said:
ARG! those look cool! I wish I'd have seen those before I bought my graves...:frown:
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The T-Rex are very cheap for the FZ1 (second gen). I think I gave around $20 ($13 +shipping) for them, and they DO have the aluminum inserts. 0608 TRex Yamaha FZ1 Frame Sliders NO CUT (1st gen are $28 +shipping) 0105 Yamaha FZ1 Frame Sliders NO CUT

They are very light weight. They are made of Delrin Acetal POM from Dupont. (sounds good to me) Light weight plastic. I've been told by others on this forum that they slide well and do a decent job of protecting the important stuff (I hope I never find out). The ones I received are the same both sides (no difference left or right), but on their website, the pic looks like the stem of one is shorter. Mine were both long with no indication in the instructions of a difference from left to right.

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Just installed mine too, the Graves required around 30 ft-lbs, I did put the recommended blue thread lock. At first I thought the 90mm bolts would be too short but they seemed fine and sturdy after install so I'll leave them as is. I do wonder though if having longer bolts would make them stronger and maybe resist some of the bending I've read about on here...


ballmead said:
Well, I fitted them up today with 24 ft-pds of torque.
I will check them again after tomorrow mornings ride.
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ballmead said:
No worries, please let me know how you go as I want to get a set myself.
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Got a reply from T-Rex; (I asked about combined shipping for frame sliders and front axle sliders...

trex racing said:
Hi,

We can ship everything at $45 via USPS priority mail 6-10 days but we are out of the frame sliders until 6 more weeks.

Thanks,
Hannah
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Seems a bit expensive at almost double the price of the frame sliders... not sure if axle sliders are that much bigger... they are twice the price...

Cheers,
Daewoo
 
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