FZ1inTX
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@ Cobalt: I have a R on mine... doesn't mean $hit! LOL
Well, I meant the first letter.... not the last.
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@ Cobalt: I have a R on mine... doesn't mean $hit! LOL
the only hate for the fz8 should be towards yamaha for taking what should have been an awesome bike and cheaping out on it which led to sub optimal performance. i wish the fz8 was better than it is but, with cheap parts thrown at it, it's lack of performance is disappointing. i was going to buy one until i rode it and went with a fz1 instead.
it really needs a tune, and suspension. my tuned fz6 was quicker than the stock fz8.
The Fz8 was Yamaha's attempt to dip its toes in the American market for a naked bike. I wish the Fz1 came as a naked option in the US, and the Fz8 came with the s-fairing edition in the US. Americans like our choices.
Manufacturers have always gotten burned offering naked bikes in the US. A few people clamor for them and when the bike guys import them the market always turns it's back on them. Bottom line, most people want some sort of wind protection regardless of what they say in some sort of focus group. The European market is different from the US market. We'll see how the new naked triple sells....I suspect the next years iteration will include a half fairing.
I like the FZ8 a lot. Just enough power for what I would need. I know the FZ1 is a better bike but I don't really need 150 HP. I have 80 WHP on my FZ6R on a good day and it's way enough for normal use.
We got the same thing with FZ6 vs. FZ6R. The same will happen with the FZ8 vs. FZ9. I haven't rode a FZ8 but help to tune it with my new mid ship exhaust. Right out the box the bike get more woop with the exhaust (dyno run to come shortly 13' stock vs Marthy exhaust / PCV)
Still waiting on the final numbers of the R1 cams swap. The first dyno run with the TB slip on was right there with a R6 (103-5 WHP). So power should not be an issue... there's a gain with the new exhaust... just need to put it on paper. From the butt dyno is about 5 HP... that's close to 110 WHP if the butt dyno is right! LOL
So the FZ9 has 113 at the crank... great! The R1 cams swap got 55 ft.lb or torque or something like that... ya... final number not here yet.
So for someone like me stuck in Florida road... The FZ8 make good sense for me. The FZ9 is a nice bike don't get me wrong. But I'm not digging the tail section and the small fuel tank is not working for me.
Not quite decided on what I will get later this year. Most that likely it will be a middle weight naked bike. gotta few on my list...
At the end of the day, I don't think there's anything wrong with the FZ8. Just a matter of personal taste and needs. We can say that from about any bike out there...
IMO, FZ8 is not so bad compared to the FZ1. FZ6R was too much of a backward step compared to the FZ6 (read steel frame, low power, no dual headlights, boxy swingarm with same engine cc). FZ6R seems more like a beginner bike and the name is just a misnomer and a marketing gimmick to attract newbies..
My "Motorcyclist" mag arrived today. Cheer up, it has some love for the FZ8.
I wonder how cheap you could get a new FZ8 after they have been collecting dust in a showroom somewhere. I've seen some people here who got screaming deals in BNIB FZ1s before
Who knows, but I know I love my naked bike. Only thing that would sway me away from it would be an FJR1300A and that would be only for long touring trips, so that I could have the saddle bags for my clothes and my tent.
Sky,
We need to get out for a ride this weekend! I'll let you try my FJR!
- Mckshred
Even fully tune with the R1 cams the mid range was crap and the HP curve was flat at 103HP like its restricted, that was with the TB slip-on. Same map and just the mid ship exhaust the bike felt better right away. Flat spot in the mid range is gone and has better top end. My buddy DJ has been busy for work and now out of town. Dyno run should be schedule soon after he get back in town.
Also working on the final tune for the 13s FZ8. The gents went on the dyno bone stock with 92WHP @10K and 52ft.lb at 8200. He too felt a huge improvement with the new exhaust and PCV tune. TPS and PSI base map... ya I learn from the best... or I should say Beast. Lol
He should go on the dyno very shortly too to get some numbers. I can't see why the bike won't brrak the 3 digits with still 55-60 ft.lb or torque... thats almost better that a R6!
Handling is another issue of his own but since quite a few FZ1 owner did upgrade there suspension... I call it a draw in that department.
It all come down on Yamaha building bike with cheap in mind. Cheap sell to a certain point... quality and performance is what most of us enjoy.
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I like the FZ8 a lot. Just enough power for what I would need. I know the FZ1 is a better bike but I don't really need 150 HP. I have 80 WHP on my FZ6R on a good day and it's way enough for normal use.
We got the same thing with FZ6 vs. FZ6R. The same will happen with the FZ8 vs. FZ9. I haven't rode a FZ8 but help to tune it with my new mid ship exhaust. Right out the box the bike get more woop with the exhaust (dyno run to come shortly 13' stock vs Marthy exhaust / PCV)
Still waiting on the final numbers of the R1 cams swap. The first dyno run with the TB slip on was right there with a R6 (103-5 WHP). So power should not be an issue... there's a gain with the new exhaust... just need to put it on paper. From the butt dyno is about 5 HP... that's close to 110 WHP if the butt dyno is right! LOL
So the FZ9 has 113 at the crank... great! The R1 cams swap got 55 ft.lb or torque or something like that... ya... final number not here yet.
So for someone like me stuck in Florida road... The FZ8 make good sense for me. The FZ9 is a nice bike don't get me wrong. But I'm not digging the tail section and the small fuel tank is not working for me.
Not quite decided on what I will get later this year. Most that likely it will be a middle weight naked bike. gotta few on my list...
At the end of the day, I don't think there's anything wrong with the FZ8. Just a matter of personal taste and needs. We can say that from about any bike out there...
Been a while...hey for the fz8 r1 cam swap did you need any other parts or just do the swap