2009 2010 FZ1 can Map fuel injection without Power Commander

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FZ1 owners: I understand the 2009-2010 FZ1 can perform its own mapping changes on the fule injection. No power commander needed. Factory Yamaha mechanics know how to program it. Anyone know the code sequence?. I need to richin up my fuel a Tad. I purchased a Graves slip on Exhaust and it was one of the oldie but goody - this puppy is totally loud. I called Graves and they told me they discontinued this slip on due to loundess. end Tip is 2 3/4 opening - not like the new one thats like 1 7/8. When I roll off the throttle it sounds like a Ferrari. Some say it has an air leak but I totally covered the slip on area with an asbestos type material and guaranteed no air leak. Graves says its probably to lean! Runs like a champ though!
 
We have a member across the pond who had a mechanic do it for him but he didn't get any info on how the ecu was remapped. I'm just as curious. I've scoured the net for this info but no one seems to have it or is willing to share.
 
kdawgfz1 said:
FZ1 owners: I understand the 2009-2010 FZ1 can perform its own mapping changes on the fule injection. No power commander needed. Factory Yamaha mechanics know how to program it. Anyone know the code sequence?. I need to richin up my fuel a Tad. I purchased a Graves slip on Exhaust and it was one of the oldie but goody - this puppy is totally loud. I called Graves and they told me they discontinued this slip on due to loundess. end Tip is 2 3/4 opening - not like the new one thats like 1 7/8. When I roll off the throttle it sounds like a Ferrari. Some say it has an air leak but I totally covered the slip on area with an asbestos type material and guaranteed no air leak. Graves says its probably to lean! Runs like a champ though!
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With that big an opening I bet that thing is LOUD! If the slip-on is the only mod you've done to the bike I doubt it's running lean as these bikes were a little "rich" from factory. The popping that you're hearing with the Graves exhaust is probably due to the AIS. Do a search and you'll see that it can be easily bypassed. When bypassed most of the popping will disappear.

As for the modifying the stock ECU I'm not sure if that can easily be done. Just doesn't seem possible given all the safeguards that are put in place by Yamaha to prevent tampering with it, hence the reason people opt for the PC III or V.
 
kdawgfz1 said:
FZ1 owners: I understand the 2009-2010 FZ1 can perform its own mapping changes on the fule injection. No power commander needed. Factory Yamaha mechanics know how to program it. Anyone know the code sequence?. I need to richin up my fuel a Tad. I purchased a Graves slip on Exhaust and it was one of the oldie but goody - this puppy is totally loud. I called Graves and they told me they discontinued this slip on due to loundess. end Tip is 2 3/4 opening - not like the new one thats like 1 7/8. When I roll off the throttle it sounds like a Ferrari. Some say it has an air leak but I totally covered the slip on area with an asbestos type material and guaranteed no air leak. Graves says its probably to lean! Runs like a champ though!
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All the gen II FZ1/Fazer have this option, their ecu is a clear copy of the r1 04-06. I didn't provide any info how can this be done, since I dropped my bike at the shop, and picked it up 1 week later. It's also thrue that any yamaha mechanic know's how to program the stock ecu or change it's mapping.

On my first service with the bike the mechanic change the oil ratio of the clutch by simpli putting the key in ignition mode and then pressing both reset and select for 5 or 10 seconds, when you enter the menu you can change almost everything, air/fuel ratio, map's ect.....since I don't like messing around with my bike and a friend of mine is the official dealer and mechanic for the Yamaha I had him do It. And after the changes he made the bike goes better than an R1.

If you wanna a suggestion from one who has done It go to a official yamaha dealer who has also a dyno and make him do it, and you can see instantly the results, mine was worth the time and money.
 
After some research today, from what I have read at several sites, you need an ECU remap kit which is a computer interface to read the stock ECU, change the map and flash it back to the ECU. I don't know if there is a way to solely make the changes through the instrument cluster.

So, I've searched for an ECU remap kit for the Yamaha and only found them for Suzuki, Ducati, Aprilia and Motoguzzi bikes. This might lend toward the FZ1 not needing a kit and can, in fact, be controlled through the bikes interface.

Don't know but I think it is time to become a "best friend" to a local certified Yamaha mechanic. :D
 
For Buell there are several really cool home grown tools; ECM Spy, and Ohio Sport Bike. Both tools allow the user to change both the fuel map and ignition settings cell by cell. This is both a good thing and a bad thing. Good in that the user can make very fine changes to all points in the map, bad for the same reasons. One can also make global changes, say 5% more fuel to all cells. Just like a PC the user really needs to have a dyno to properly set the bike up.

Another good thing with these solutions is no piggy-back is required. A down side is the tuning process can take forever. The beauty of a PC is that it take a lot of the effort out of the process because they interface with they dyno.

Another tool is the Teka II and Teka IV. They are sold by Factory Pro and are mainly for Suzuki but there are options for other brands too.

Yet another option is Tune Boy. However they don't have a product for Yamaha but many other brands so it makes me wonder if Yahama has locked the ECU up.

It would be great it someone with lots of spare time would create a similar tool for Yamaha.
 
CRO_FZ1 said:
All the gen II FZ1/Fazer have this option, their ecu is a clear copy of the r1 04-06. I didn't provide any info how can this be done, since I dropped my bike at the shop, and picked it up 1 week later. It's also thrue that any yamaha mechanic know's how to program the stock ecu or change it's mapping.

On my first service with the bike the mechanic change the oil ratio of the clutch by simpli putting the key in ignition mode and then pressing both reset and select for 5 or 10 seconds, when you enter the menu you can change almost everything, air/fuel ratio, map's ect.....since I don't like messing around with my bike and a friend of mine is the official dealer and mechanic for the Yamaha I had him do It. And after the changes he made the bike goes better than an R1.

If you wanna a suggestion from one who has done It go to a official yamaha dealer who has also a dyno and make him do it, and you can see instantly the results, mine was worth the time and money.
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Are you really getting 163rwhp. That is R1 holy smokes power man!
 
Hellgate said:
That is next to the muffler bearings...
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GPz1100 said:
Lost in translation... Indeed!

"Better than an R1" I need some empirical proof to believe that.
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Is that proof enough for ya!!!!

Regarding the other issue......when you boght the bike brand new, and you made a couple of hundred of miles, if you previously had another bike, or have driven another bike, have you noticed that the gear lever of the fz1 is quite harder then the other bikes, on the main display of the bike you can adjust the "ratio" that is the amount of oil being pumped in when changing the gear.

If you are still not convinced ask the official mechanic he will know what I'm talking about.
 
Rusty said:
I think someone's been living in a dream world after reading that first post!
I'd love to see a map and end can boost the FZ1 to 160+ bhp!
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If you still aren't convinced of the possibilities that the stock ECU of the FZ1 offers, here is a comparison of the same bikes mine and another guy, the difference is in the exhaust, he has a TRI CONE yoshimura hand made - slip on, and I have a TRC full system. Also I wanna mention that the first bike hasn't any of the Ivan products.

The first bike (Blue and Red lines) has the following setup : TRI CONE Yoshimura slip on, large airbox, k&n air filter.

The second bike (green, orange) had the following setup : Yoshimura TRC full system, Large Airbox Mode, K&N filter, Ivan's sub throttle plates, Ivan's FCE, Factory pro Velocity stacks (Long type).

Both bikes have been set up to have as much torque as possible and not for hi-end power. Neither of the bikes is equipped with the pcIII.

You can see the biggest difference from the two bikes in the range of 6000rpm to 7800rpm.

Advice: if you wanna more low & mid end power purchase the velocity stacks the long ones, they worth more than the pcIII.
 
CRO_FZ1 said:
Is that proof enough for ya!!!!

Regarding the other issue......when you boght the bike brand new, and you made a couple of hundred of miles, if you previously had another bike, or have driven another bike, have you noticed that the gear lever of the fz1 is quite harder then the other bikes, on the main display of the bike you can adjust the "ratio" that is the amount of oil being pumped in when changing the gear.

If you are still not convinced ask the official mechanic he will know what I'm talking about.
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I'm sorry CRO but you lost me on this one. The oil pump is mechanical at a set rate with the engine rpm. The cluster isn't going to change it.

Now the cluster will have diagnostic stuff for the mechanic, and the ability to rest error codes but that is about it. My Buell had a great cluster with tons of info, I wish the Yamaha was half as good.

Again back to what I stated a before, on the non-US FZ6s you can adjust the percent of CO. I assume non-US FZ1s have that same capability. This is what could have been used by your mechanic to "tune" the bike. Keep in mind that is a global change not a specific change like what a PC can do.

I guess I'll need to spend the $6.00 and down load a european manual.
 
Hellgate said:
I'm sorry CRO but you lost me on this one. The oil pump is mechanical at a set rate with the engine rpm. The cluster isn't going to change it.

Now the cluster will have diagnostic stuff for the mechanic, and the ability to rest error codes but that is about it. My Buell had a great cluster with tons of info, I wish the Yamaha was half as good.

Again back to what I stated a before, on the non-US FZ6s you can adjust the percent of CO. I assume non-US FZ1s have that same capability. This is what could have been used by your mechanic to "tune" the bike. Keep in mind that is a global change not a specific change like what a PC can do.

I guess I'll need to spend the $6.00 and down load a european manual.
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Don't know whether it's possible to do detailed changes to the ECU on the European FZ1. But I do know what my specialist did when my FZ1 was on the dyno for the first time, completely stock, he went into the dashboard system en changed per cilinder some numbers regarding CO etc.
After that my bike ran a little smoother, but that's all, did not gain any HP.
 
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