kidblooper
Well-Known Member
WARNING HEADACHE AND LOTS OF READING. NOT FOR THE WEAK AT HEART !
There are many twist and chain of events in this experience , and most likely a headache to read much less live.
a. I Purchased a 2007 Yamaha FZ1 and Gold Card Plan from Interstate Cycles in Lake City Fl, and for the most part Interstate Cycles were very pleasant to dell with
and very helpful in offering information which led me to buy the FZ1.
b.I spent a few very very enjoyable hours on the FZ. words can not explain how great it felt to ride this bike.
c.I hit my 600 mile mark and took the bike in for my first service.
d.I picked my fz1 from the 600 mile service and noticed that the oil and filter were NOT noted as being changed on my receipt, so i confront the technician and the service manager only to learn that Yamaha has indeed changed the 600 mile oil change to 4k miles to give the rings plenty of time to seat properly " Wow thats a big Leap" , but with all consideration i accepted it to be true.
e. A few weeks went by and my concern grew, the oil was black and thin..i was thinking to myself this can NOT be right.
f. So i made a post on a online forum asking for help and if other fz owners had experienced this to be true. I heard the same reponse from everyone, NO NO and NO, was even called stupid in a non direct manner. and was told to read my F**ckin Manual. My response was i have read my owners manual but that it has changed. A few ppl offered up information that NO it has not changed and whoever told me that was a moron.
g.I started asking questions on another forum where i ended up talking to a motorcycle technician that wishes his name remain completely out of this "for he works for the company in hand" But he urged me to contact Yamaha for he sensed foul play on the end of the dealership.
h.I contacted Yamaha Tech Support which after a few minutes i was transferred to a woman named Susan, which indeed confirmed my thoughts of foul play at the and of the dealership. She was very pleasant and offered to contact the dealership in question. I replied no but if i have any trouble i'll call you back tommorrow.
i.The next morning i contacted the dealership and spoke with the service manager about the amount of miles on my bike and after research revealed that it was 600 miles not the 4k miles he had told me. His reply was still on pace with his previous statements that it is indeed 4k miles.
j.I'm thinking at this point. I'll call the bluff. and responded ok good deal can you print me a copy of any documentation that states 4k miles. and thought to my self.. lets see how he works his way out of this one.
k. His reply "Absolutely" Anything i can do to help just let me know.. so we proceeded to the back of the dealership where his office was. And there its was a service manual sent to Interstate Cycles from Yamaha Stating the FZ1 was to receive its first oil and filter change at 4k miles.
l. Holy Cow you cant be serious. I thanked him for his time and told him i was headed home to call yamaha and point out the actual documentation.
m.Once i got home i started reviewing the service manual and owners manual and sure enough there is a discrepency between the two documents, then while i was reading i noticed something the documentation from the dealership was Printed Yamaha FZS10V / FZS10VC and the owners manual was Printed FZS10W / FZS10WC.
n. Ah HAH i found the problem.. surely the dealership has used the 06 model for my 07 model bike and they are different from year to year. so instead of calling Yamaha i Immediately contacted the dealer ship.. i asked for the service manager and was almost excited because i found the source of the problem and maybe i wouldn't be loossing my warranty over failure to comply with service standards. He was a little stumped for a bit and replied mr. christie i'm gonna need a few minutes to contact Yamaha and figure out where the source of the problem is.
o. The service manager then returned my call and with the most polite voice said mr. christie there is indeed a variance between the service manual we receive and your owners manual. Even in the 07 Model. Well how in the world can this be. he also replied that my warranty would be in no danger and that Jason a service tech with Yamaha will be filing a discrepency report with yamaha..
OK Now where getting somewhere right ? WRONG
HERE IS MY CONCERN
After speaking with numerous mechanics the one thing i hear in common because i did hear something different from every tech i talked to. Was how many miles did you put after it was supposed to have the 600 mile oil/filter change. and how hard have you rode it.
well here ya go.. the bike never seen 4k rpms during breaking with this exception to throttle up and down to not keep a consistent speed on the motor.
Next Concern there is no shame in my thoughts after riding this bike for weeks at 4k rpms or less i was excited about exceeding it. so for the next 1511 miles after i was supposed to get the oil change at 600 miles "total miles now 2111" This bike has been rode with a free spirit." nothing excessive as street racing. but i've had a few nice country side rides.
Now heres my question to everyone. !
Has Damage to this motor been done ? i spent and extra $1299.00 to make sure i didn't have problems with regular scheduled maintinenece but in fact feel i have been failed by Yamaha Co. Them selfs . Do you think they should be liable for the replacement of the unit ? Or atleast extend the warranty for the terms of my payments ? so i'm not stuck paying for a bike that is parked blowed up ?
Very Stressed and Concerned
Chad Christie
There are many twist and chain of events in this experience , and most likely a headache to read much less live.
a. I Purchased a 2007 Yamaha FZ1 and Gold Card Plan from Interstate Cycles in Lake City Fl, and for the most part Interstate Cycles were very pleasant to dell with
and very helpful in offering information which led me to buy the FZ1.
b.I spent a few very very enjoyable hours on the FZ. words can not explain how great it felt to ride this bike.
c.I hit my 600 mile mark and took the bike in for my first service.
d.I picked my fz1 from the 600 mile service and noticed that the oil and filter were NOT noted as being changed on my receipt, so i confront the technician and the service manager only to learn that Yamaha has indeed changed the 600 mile oil change to 4k miles to give the rings plenty of time to seat properly " Wow thats a big Leap" , but with all consideration i accepted it to be true.
e. A few weeks went by and my concern grew, the oil was black and thin..i was thinking to myself this can NOT be right.
f. So i made a post on a online forum asking for help and if other fz owners had experienced this to be true. I heard the same reponse from everyone, NO NO and NO, was even called stupid in a non direct manner. and was told to read my F**ckin Manual. My response was i have read my owners manual but that it has changed. A few ppl offered up information that NO it has not changed and whoever told me that was a moron.
g.I started asking questions on another forum where i ended up talking to a motorcycle technician that wishes his name remain completely out of this "for he works for the company in hand" But he urged me to contact Yamaha for he sensed foul play on the end of the dealership.
h.I contacted Yamaha Tech Support which after a few minutes i was transferred to a woman named Susan, which indeed confirmed my thoughts of foul play at the and of the dealership. She was very pleasant and offered to contact the dealership in question. I replied no but if i have any trouble i'll call you back tommorrow.
i.The next morning i contacted the dealership and spoke with the service manager about the amount of miles on my bike and after research revealed that it was 600 miles not the 4k miles he had told me. His reply was still on pace with his previous statements that it is indeed 4k miles.
j.I'm thinking at this point. I'll call the bluff. and responded ok good deal can you print me a copy of any documentation that states 4k miles. and thought to my self.. lets see how he works his way out of this one.
k. His reply "Absolutely" Anything i can do to help just let me know.. so we proceeded to the back of the dealership where his office was. And there its was a service manual sent to Interstate Cycles from Yamaha Stating the FZ1 was to receive its first oil and filter change at 4k miles.
l. Holy Cow you cant be serious. I thanked him for his time and told him i was headed home to call yamaha and point out the actual documentation.
m.Once i got home i started reviewing the service manual and owners manual and sure enough there is a discrepency between the two documents, then while i was reading i noticed something the documentation from the dealership was Printed Yamaha FZS10V / FZS10VC and the owners manual was Printed FZS10W / FZS10WC.
n. Ah HAH i found the problem.. surely the dealership has used the 06 model for my 07 model bike and they are different from year to year. so instead of calling Yamaha i Immediately contacted the dealer ship.. i asked for the service manager and was almost excited because i found the source of the problem and maybe i wouldn't be loossing my warranty over failure to comply with service standards. He was a little stumped for a bit and replied mr. christie i'm gonna need a few minutes to contact Yamaha and figure out where the source of the problem is.
o. The service manager then returned my call and with the most polite voice said mr. christie there is indeed a variance between the service manual we receive and your owners manual. Even in the 07 Model. Well how in the world can this be. he also replied that my warranty would be in no danger and that Jason a service tech with Yamaha will be filing a discrepency report with yamaha..
OK Now where getting somewhere right ? WRONG
HERE IS MY CONCERN
After speaking with numerous mechanics the one thing i hear in common because i did hear something different from every tech i talked to. Was how many miles did you put after it was supposed to have the 600 mile oil/filter change. and how hard have you rode it.
well here ya go.. the bike never seen 4k rpms during breaking with this exception to throttle up and down to not keep a consistent speed on the motor.
Next Concern there is no shame in my thoughts after riding this bike for weeks at 4k rpms or less i was excited about exceeding it. so for the next 1511 miles after i was supposed to get the oil change at 600 miles "total miles now 2111" This bike has been rode with a free spirit." nothing excessive as street racing. but i've had a few nice country side rides.
Now heres my question to everyone. !
Has Damage to this motor been done ? i spent and extra $1299.00 to make sure i didn't have problems with regular scheduled maintinenece but in fact feel i have been failed by Yamaha Co. Them selfs . Do you think they should be liable for the replacement of the unit ? Or atleast extend the warranty for the terms of my payments ? so i'm not stuck paying for a bike that is parked blowed up ?
Very Stressed and Concerned
Chad Christie