FlashTune

Nels at 2 Wheel DynoWorks used FlashTune software to flash my 09 fz1. after a few hours of development, we have a final product. For $200, you can also have this flash. this isn't me or my money, 2 Wheel DynoWorks is selling its custom developed flash, i'm just offering it. 2 Wheel DynoWorks . The list of options on this bike is so convenient. no more need for a grand in extra accessories, now it's just a reflash and boom, pretty much done.

So, after a nice long few hours fiddling with FlashTune, here's the skinny. There's not much performance to gain on the FZ-1 through flashing, almost none actually, over a slip on with a power commander tune. There are nice secondary options that are very nice though. With some advanced timing through the gears we picked up 3hp and 2tq.

So just to start, my 09 fz1 has a gytr slip on with a pc3 and custom fuel mapping tuned by 2 Wheel DynoWorks by Nels. so, the flashtune flash we developed is being compared to that in this write up. not just from stock exactly. compared to stock, there is a lot of awesome to be gained by the flash. if you already have a pc3+slip on+custom dyno tune, it's not getting you a huge bump in performance as much as little other things that are awesome. a stock bike, would be getting all those extras plus a nice bump in performance.

The nice things about flashtune, was the secondary abilities we were able to fiddle with.

For example, turning on the fans earlier, mine come on at 195 and turn off at 198 now, but we can set em to whatever you want.

Rev limiter raised to 12,200, but power falls off at around 11,800ish anyway so it's not really doing much

fuel cut disabled

exup valve/motor disabled

ais disabled, means you dont need block off plates or a resistor for the pump since you dont have to remove it now. block off plates take over an hour and are a giant pain in the backside on this bike too.

secondary throttle plates, don't change much, the stock map is about as good as it gets. we fiddled and fiddled but it all resulted in loss of velocity, aka the stock stp table pretty much is as good as it gets.

speedo correction, fixed, can be done by sprocket size too if you change sprockets

the ignition advances are where any real changes come into play. compared to the slip on with pc3 tune, there's no dip in power where the hole in the ignition tables are around 7k. its where the cams kick on peak tq and that extra heat n whatnot acts like the timing thats pulled out of it there vs everywhere around it hence its sitting around 34-37 instead of 45 right at that tq peak sweet spot, in every gear 1-6.

Basically, the tune we developed using the flashtune software, means you dont need a power commander $379, ignition module $359, fuel cut eliminator $?, block off plates $30-50, leave the exup valve in (because the stock exup valve never opens over 70%) and we can leave it at 100% open, which means you leave the exup motor in, and not buy the resistor to keep it from throwing a error code $50, secondary flies, stay stock, don't need to fiddle with em or use smaller ones $?.

So, the tuned flash we just made, is gonna save upwards of at least $800 in extra crap you don't need to buy.

graphs and more information to come. the base maps from flashtune, not worth it. they need to be tweaked quite a bit to get right, especially the ignition timing tables. so, if you haven't had anything on your bike done, it'd be worth it. if you have a slip on and pc tune, you wont be getting much performance out of it. but you will get a buncha cool extras. theres more, i'll be adding to this shortly. but the tuning laptops are at the shop and i'm at work so, i'll get to em when i get back to the shop.

so, i'd say for the right price, this is totally worth it. once we finish the last few odds n ends on it, we may be bringing something to the table for yall to look at. everything is backed up by dyno graphs, i aint just spewing crap outta nowhere here. if you have any questions let me know.

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blue line, gytr slip on with pc3 tune. red line, finished flash + gytr slip on

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blue line, finished flash with gytr slip on. green line, flashtune base map flash with gytr slip on.
 
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Seems like this is ideal for someone who wants a stock bike with all the little niggly things fixed. Stock bike plus.

by stock meaning you can do a slip on or full system without having to buy any extras for it besides that, yes. no pc5, ign mod, fuel controller, fce, ais resistor, exup resistor, speedohealer etc. we're flashing a full stock exhaust fz1 in spokane this weekend, will be interesting to see the differences in just the stock can flash.

luckily, a good tuner is a good tuner, and whatever one wants to do with a bike, flashtune has the ability to tune whatever needs to be done, so from stock to supersport, nels has it covered. he uses flashtune on a lotta race bikes and whatnot which are way over the head of the lil fz1 lol
 
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There is a big difference with a full exhaust in the mid-range which would require a another flash to take advantage of the full exhaust.

well yes it does make a huge difference, so you can either get the onbike harness where we/you re-pin the wiring harness, or you just gotta mail off the ecu again.

(i'm personally looking for a full system so i can reflash it for this as well cuz well, heck yes i want a full system flash!) the gytr midpipe corrodes horribly anyway

this just happens to be on my bike, so the graphs are only for a slip on.
 
Unless you have a PCV then you just change your map a little.. take a few minutes..:poke: lol.

eh, kinda, fueling changes quite a bit going from a slip on to a full system. i honestly would never go back to a non flashed bike after this. i'm flashing my zx10r next but its with woolich not flashtune as their kawi software is a bit better. the changes, are absolutely amazing. i had a big ol shit eatin grin on the whole test ride, even though the final numbers didnt change a lot, the bike rides totally differently, the power hits way harder sooner lower everywhere, the reduced engine braking is awesome too, and having the speedo fixed for my sprockets is sweet too. i bought the onbike harness so theres a plug in left on the bike out the side for easy reflashing whenever i wanna change a sprocket again or when i get my full system this spring
 
I am so looking forward to meeting Nel's tomorrow and getting this done to my bone stock FZ1. Will report to all of you sometime next week after I have butt dyno'ed it :-}.
 
I am so looking forward to meeting Nel's tomorrow and getting this done to my bone stock FZ1. Will report to all of you sometime next week after I have butt dyno'ed it :-}.

Subscribing... This looks very interesting and seems to fit my bill. I'm not looking for any significant gains in power - just looking to smooth-out and fix the quirks on my bone-stock '06 - which is apparently the worst GenII. Eagerly awaiting your report!!
 
Subscribing... This looks very interesting and seems to fit my bill. I'm not looking for any significant gains in power - just looking to smooth-out and fix the quirks on my bone-stock '06 - which is apparently the worst GenII. Eagerly awaiting your report!!

replace worst with "most room for improvement" ;)

and yeah its all the extras that come with this that make it worth every penny. if you want power, for one, you picked the wrong bike, for two, you need a full system, for three, thats fucking expensive...so for four, get the flash and enjoy the fz1 as good as it can get for $200 with what ya got, stock or slip on, farkles, no farkles etc.
 
Any idea how this compares to Flash-Tune's flash for the FZ1?

yes. the second map posted, shows the difference between flashtunes basemap, and the 2wheeldynoworks flashtune custom map. as you can see there is a difference. also, flashtunes base maps are not customized for your bike, they aren't a finished product. they're better than nothing, but it's half a product.

I don't see the FCE specifically mentioned ?? I need that for sure. The Nels flash certainly seems to have more options - like the speedo-heal for instance...

no more fce needed, it's disable in the flash. just to be clear, this is Nels of 2Wheel DynoWorks, using the flashtune software, to create this flash. we're not using our own software or hacking any ecu's, we're using someone elses tuning software, it's just one of many different ecu flashing softwares we use to create custom flashes for all the bikes we tune.
 
Just to clarify . . .FCE stands for "fuel cut eliminator" and it is an electronic add on device that Ivan's Performance makes and sells. It's primary job is to eliminate the deceleration fuel cut that on the GenII that results in snatchy on off throttle performance. . . .Flashes have the potential to do the same thing within the ECU and thus eliminate the need for an add on electronic device. This would properly be called something like "removal of deceleration fuel cut" not "FCE" which is Ivan's electronic device. Make sense??
 
Just to clarify . . .FCE stands for "fuel cut eliminator" and it is an electronic add on device that Ivan's Performance makes and sells. It's primary job is to eliminate the deceleration fuel cut that on the GenII that results in snatchy on off throttle performance. . . .Flashes have the potential to do the same thing within the ECU and thus eliminate the need for an add on electronic device. This would properly be called something like "removal of deceleration fuel cut" not "FCE" which is Ivan's electronic device. Make sense??

yes, i am aware. for the sake of what people equate it to i just used the same lingo. thank you for clarifying the definitions though. the need for ivans FCE is removed by this flash. ivans flash does the same thing, hence he is giving credit on returning his FCE's when doing his flash.

the engine braking is now so slight it's amazing and makes downshifts really smooth. it caught me off guard first ride how little it was and how smooth on/off throttle was

i guess i should have said "there is no longer a need for one" as what it adjusts is done in the flash instead.
 
Got the flash today, re-installed in the bike, now it is raining, trying to snow...sheesh..... What I have observed so far running it on the center stand. It took a couple cranks to get it started, even gave a little throttle and she quit. Had me worried at 1st. I gave her another shot and she fired and stayed running. Seemed off some but stayed running, giving it some gas seemed to be the same, being off, then all of a sudden she smoothed right out :-}. Cold idle was about 13-1400 rpm. Once warm it dropped to 1000rpm. I turned the idle up to 1200rpm and proceeded to play with the throttle. Best way I can describe is it sounded throatier and seemed to rev faster from any given rpm I put it at with no hesitations or blips at all.... So at this point all seems good.
Tomorrow calls for more rain which means more mud here. When it clears enough to run it I will trailer it to asphalt and get a run in. Should be no later than Monday. I will get you ride a report then
 
Took it out for about a 100 mile shake down run. The best way to put it is I am VERY pleased.... and the best way to describe the flash is...... smooth. The snatch is all but gone. Only having some at real low rpm (under2500rpm) The mid range pulls stronger and steady starting at about 3800rpm. The old blah then at 8000 rpm the wheel coming of the ground in 1st gear is gone. From a roll on at 10mph in 1st gear she picked up faster and smoother than ever before smooth all the way to 1200rpm.. I admit I was way up on the tank the 2 times I did this so I would reduce the risk of it coming up to fast on me. I was able to hit it wide open and keep the wheel real close to or still barely on the road all the way up to 12000rpm then I hit 2nd and it launched her up into the air so I let off the throttle.

The other thing I noticed the most is how much smoother it is. I use to always either be shifting up all the time (or down), anything to keep it out of the 4-5500rpm range cruising at whatever the speed limit I was attempting to stay within because it had an annoying vibration. That is gone. I found my self doing 55 in 1st gear and 80+ in 6th cause it was so smooth at mid to high rpm. I highly recommend a throttle lock now. After I got use to it... it seemed the only place that had any of the old yamaha vibration was down low in rpm. I know that it is still better down low than before because that was noticed the 1st part of the ride, I find it funny that the low end is where it is most noticed now.
Gas mileage I do not know yet. Range is important to me cause I do a lot of touring. I will update that here when I get a # for it. I am tired and going to relax now (still recovering from a heart attack 3 weeks ago) I will gladly answer any questions that you post
 
update: from nels. group buy on his flashtune flash, get me 5 guys, and the price is $175 per flash, so its $25 off the normal price of $200.

just as an fyi, here's a run of an ivans flash (blue) vs nels flashtune flash (red). as you can see, they're practically the same graph. what this proves, is that ivans has a good flash. and, nels does too. the differences being in fueling. ivans fueling has a lot of room for improvement.

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Ivan's flash is designed to work with a full system, air box mod and PCV so I don't see how you can compare them together as Ivan's map would be showing around 100hp at 7k rpm and 150 HP on the top end with a Yoshi header.

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